Some reading ----

I somehow had on the twitter two articles sometime last month on the same day that left an

immensely bad taste and worse mood .

Now one usually does glance out at much crap like this first article and dismiss it as a hopeless insane person.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/07/08/sharron-angles-advice-for_n_639294.html

Which is what I almost did except that the crap line in support of God

" Much good can come from a horrific situation like that, Angle added.

Lemons can be made into lemonade. " and "God's plan." sort of stayed with me

and the usual stuff of bad karma that gets associated with such stuff.

Then as I coincidenatlly read another link that I came across and I almost had a very vicious argument in my head against such crap.

Now this is a very long article on a very sad situation and while it is in general about the post war stuff in Rwanda , the difficulty of reconciling with people who are the prime cause of torture can be a personal thing too in many cases.

There was something esp understanding I felt about so many people being dismissive of physical torure

http://www.guernicamag.com/features/1853/linfield_7_1_10/

I dont want to write much on that and the article is amazingly painful in general.

But since I happened to read the previous nonsense when I read this I wanted to ask that horrible stupid woman

(and they say education makes people better)- look at this about Rwanada.

Now what good is to come of this.

Did God have a plan - how can he make such a plan and be God?

Half a million people had bad karma?

"It says but Human Rights Watch estimates that up to half a million women were raped. Seventy percent of those who survived are HIV-positive, according to UNICEF, and it is thought that ten thousand to twenty-five thousand children were born of these rapes. Their mothers are often ostracized by their communities and live, therefore, in marginalization and immiseration (some have been forced to turn to prostitution); the children are reviled by other Tutsis as “children of bad memories,” “children of hate,” or “little killers.”

I am quite agnostic and dont like to get at all into personal relegious discussions but when such crap is

mentioned by people aspiring to be leaders(forget the fact that she is from US - we will happily have our equivalents ) it seems sick.

I am sure they will justify it by some plan of God surely.

The article touches upon the effects of torture - in the Nazi context in a very moving way - we seem to have these days built this highbrow stuff about soul and heart and all but forget that most normal people cannot think of that - when the body is in painfully tortured - that torture sort of can define their soul.

Améry learned, too, that all those aspects of his character that he had considered central and unique would quickly vanish, leaving only one irrefutable reality: the body in pain. “The tortured person never ceases to be amazed that all those things one may… call his soul, or his mind, or his consciousness, or his identity, are destroyed when there is that cracking and splintering in the shoulder joints… Only through torture did he learn that a living person can be transformed so thoroughly into flesh.” The destruction of the autonomous self—a destruction that, if he survives, will continue to haunt the victim—makes torture “the most horrible event a human being can retain within himself.”

The tortured person loses what Améry called “trust in the world”: a belief in the social contract, a belief that the boundaries of the body will be respected, a belief that the world wants to share itself with you. Trust in the world means that you, too, are entitled to a minimal safety and a minimal life: though the world might not shower you with happiness, it will at least defend your right to exist. The loss of that trust, Améry argued, is a kind of mutilation. That is why “whoever was tortured, stays tortured… It was over for a while. It still is not over. Twenty-two years later I am still dangling.”